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		<title>By: Rhodo Zeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhodo Zeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow FOARP thanks for the additional links, that is very kind of you.  More resources in one place.

Let&#039;s expose and f*ck these bastards, shall we?  You ain&#039;t doin it right, then piss off, unless you want to go to the mat.

Pls send me a message via twitter or whatever, when you can.  Lemme know how things go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow FOARP thanks for the additional links, that is very kind of you.  More resources in one place.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s expose and f*ck these bastards, shall we?  You ain&#8217;t doin it right, then piss off, unless you want to go to the mat.</p>
<p>Pls send me a message via twitter or whatever, when you can.  Lemme know how things go.</p>
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		<title>By: FOARP</title>
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		<dc:creator>FOARP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can also inquire about English and Welsh barristers here:

http://www.legalhub.co.uk/legalhub/app/main?ao=o.Id6edd5a002c711db85b9d734e660a063&amp;ndd=2&amp;rs=BOL1.0&amp;vr=1.0&amp;bctocguid=Id6e745f002c711db85b9d734e660a063&amp;ststate=S&amp;linktype=toc

English and Welsh solicitors are listed on The Law Society&#039;s website here:

http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingandusing/findasolicitor.law

The Bar Council and Law Society of Scotland can tell you whether your Scottish advocate/solicitor is genuine or not - just email them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can also inquire about English and Welsh barristers here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.legalhub.co.uk/legalhub/app/main?ao=o.Id6edd5a002c711db85b9d734e660a063&#038;ndd=2&#038;rs=BOL1.0&#038;vr=1.0&#038;bctocguid=Id6e745f002c711db85b9d734e660a063&#038;ststate=S&#038;linktype=toc" rel="nofollow">http://www.legalhub.co.uk/legalhub/app/main?ao=o.Id6edd5a002c711db85b9d734e660a063&#038;ndd=2&#038;rs=BOL1.0&#038;vr=1.0&#038;bctocguid=Id6e745f002c711db85b9d734e660a063&#038;ststate=S&#038;linktype=toc</a></p>
<p>English and Welsh solicitors are listed on The Law Society&#8217;s website here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingandusing/findasolicitor.law" rel="nofollow">http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingandusing/findasolicitor.law</a></p>
<p>The Bar Council and Law Society of Scotland can tell you whether your Scottish advocate/solicitor is genuine or not &#8211; just email them.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhodo Zeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhodo Zeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Nat, thanks for your kind comment!

It seems you are pretty knowledgeable about these type of scams.  It is instructive for us here in China to remember that these sort of cases do not only happen here.  I don&#039;t know why we tend to think that way, but I certainly make that mistake from time to time.  Perhaps it is a bit of cultural arrogance on the part of Westerners.

I hadn&#039;t heard about the case you mention, but that would seem like a great area to be in if you didn&#039;t want anyone to look into your qualifications.  Immigration applicants are presumably even less likely to vet their lawyers than business men and women are.  Amazing that a local bar association was fooled as well.

In the CDE case, which recently had everyone in this area abuzz, he was scheduled to give a talk at an AmCham event this month.  And it looked like he would, until his unfortunate interview was published, and more importantly, read and believed.

I am enjoying your website!  Reading about Marc Dreier now, which is a fascinating case that I had not come across before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Nat, thanks for your kind comment!</p>
<p>It seems you are pretty knowledgeable about these type of scams.  It is instructive for us here in China to remember that these sort of cases do not only happen here.  I don&#8217;t know why we tend to think that way, but I certainly make that mistake from time to time.  Perhaps it is a bit of cultural arrogance on the part of Westerners.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t heard about the case you mention, but that would seem like a great area to be in if you didn&#8217;t want anyone to look into your qualifications.  Immigration applicants are presumably even less likely to vet their lawyers than business men and women are.  Amazing that a local bar association was fooled as well.</p>
<p>In the CDE case, which recently had everyone in this area abuzz, he was scheduled to give a talk at an AmCham event this month.  And it looked like he would, until his unfortunate interview was published, and more importantly, read and believed.</p>
<p>I am enjoying your website!  Reading about Marc Dreier now, which is a fascinating case that I had not come across before.</p>
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		<title>By: Nat Colley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nat Colley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rhodo!

&quot;To be honest, in my experience, few clients do any vetting of the lawyers they work with. This is something that should be surprising, but isn’t, just because it seems to be the norm. &quot;

You are so right! Perhaps you also heard about the fake immigration lawyer in New York that was recently busted after being &#039;in practice&#039; since 1992!  That&#039;s part of what my consulting practice is about, along with transforming the whole attorney client relationship. Thanks for the post. It&#039;s a great tip for anyone considering doing business overseas, whether that&#039;s China or some other place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rhodo!</p>
<p>&#8220;To be honest, in my experience, few clients do any vetting of the lawyers they work with. This is something that should be surprising, but isn’t, just because it seems to be the norm. &#8221;</p>
<p>You are so right! Perhaps you also heard about the fake immigration lawyer in New York that was recently busted after being &#8216;in practice&#8217; since 1992!  That&#8217;s part of what my consulting practice is about, along with transforming the whole attorney client relationship. Thanks for the post. It&#8217;s a great tip for anyone considering doing business overseas, whether that&#8217;s China or some other place.</p>
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